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Kos tells us we told you so:
Of course, passing the bailout, and pissing away hundreds of billions of dollars to Bush’s and Paulson’s best friends haven’t really done much to stem the bleeding, we’re in a brutal recession and job losses are piling up in numbers unseen for decades, and the market sure as heck wasn’t propped up:
Government by Dow was a failure. […]
I understand the argument that had nothing been done, then things might be worse today. That’s an unprovable assertion, but it’s a plausible one. Yet can anyone really argue that had Congress waited a few more weeks for the smart economists and policymakers to weigh in, thus allowing for a better diagnosis and solution for the problem, that things would be that much worse?
Go read the rest. He’s right.
The second thing that you should read today is Michael Moore’s requiem for GM:
For all of that, the auto heads had to sit there in November and be ridiculed about how they traveled to D.C. Yes, they flew on their corporate jets, just like the bankers and Wall Street thieves did in October. But, hey, THAT was OK! They’re the Masters of the Universe! Nothing but the best chariots for Big Finance as they set about to loot our nation’s treasury.
Of course, the auto magnates used be the Masters who ruled the world. They were the pulsating hub that all other industries — steel, oil, cement contractors — served. Fifty-five years ago, the president of GM sat on that same Capitol Hill and bluntly told Congress, what’s good for General Motors is good for the country. Because, you see, in their minds, GM WAS the country.
What a long, sad fall from grace we witnessed on November 19th when the three blind mice had their knuckles slapped and then were sent back home to write an essay called, “Why You Should Give Me Billions of Dollars of Free Cash.” […]
Let me just state the obvious: Every single dollar Congress gives these three companies will be flushed right down the toilet. There is nothing the management teams of the Big 3 are going to do to convince people to go out during a recession and buy their big, gas-guzzling, inferior products. Just forget it. And, as sure as I am that the Ford family-owned Detroit Lions are not going to the Super Bowl — ever — I can guarantee you, after they burn through this $34 billion, they’ll be back for another $34 billion next summer.
So what to do? Members of Congress, here’s what I propose:
1. Transporting Americans is and should be one of the most important functions our government must address. And because we are facing a massive economic, energy and environmental crisis, the new president and Congress must do what Franklin Roosevelt did when he was faced with a crisis (and ordered the auto industry to stop building cars and instead build tanks and planes): The Big 3 are, from this point forward, to build only cars that are not primarily dependent on oil and, more importantly to build trains, buses, subways and light rail (a corresponding public works project across the country will build the rail lines and tracks). This will not only save jobs, but create millions of new ones.
2. You could buy ALL the common shares of stock in General Motors for less than $3 billion. Why should we give GM $18 billion or $25 billion or anything? Take the money and buy the company! (You’re going to demand collateral anyway if you give them the “loan,” and because we know they will default on that loan, you’re going to own the company in the end as it is. So why wait? Just buy them out now.)
3. None of us want government officials running a car company, but there are some very smart transportation geniuses who could be hired to do this. We need a Marshall Plan to switch us off oil-dependent vehicles and get us into the 21st century. […]
This proposal will save our industrial infrastructure — and millions of jobs. More importantly, it will create millions more. It literally could pull us out of this recession.
In contrast, yesterday General Motors presented its restructuring proposal to Congress. They promised, if Congress gave them $18 billion now, they would, in turn, eliminate around 20,000 jobs. You read that right. We give them billions so they can throw more Americans out of work. That’s been their Big Idea for the last 30 years — layoff thousands in order to protect profits. But no one ever stopped to ask this question: If you throw everyone out of work, who’s going to have the money to go out and buy a car?
These idiots don’t deserve a dime. Fire all of them, and take over the industry for the good of the workers, the country and the planet.
What’s good for General Motors IS good for the country. Once the country is calling the shots.
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December 4th, 2008 at 8:40 am
I say let them fail. No bailouts for corporations and it’ll teach the UAW a good lesson about economics.
December 4th, 2008 at 10:25 am
Typical uninformed libertarian response. This is NOT UAW’s fault. In fact, they have given up a ton - jobs, pay, etc - just to keep these companies, who have made VERY poor choices, afloat.
December 4th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
Umm… on average, American auto workers in the Ford, Chysler, and GM plants make something like $30/hr MORE in wages and benefits as American auto workers in Toyota, Honda, and Nissan plants.
Let’s pretend for a second that American auto companies actually made cars we wanted to drive. I’d still like to see any company surive whose labor costs were almost double their competitors.
Just admit that labor shot themselves in the foot.
I’d like to see all these American companies fail, have their assets eaten up by a more competent firm(s) and their workers let go and rehired at market wages.
December 4th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
Debunked
Also note that the financial position for Detroit’s foreign competitors is enormously helped by the fact that they don’t cover their non U.S. laborers health care plans.
You could just as easily say ‘admit it… lack on universal health care shot the big three in the head.’
December 5th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
Again, you only mention wages. The devil is in nonmonetary benefits.
And we’re only talking about american transplants, so non U.S. Labor is irrelevent.
December 6th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
So which UAW workers tell the companies what kind of cars to make?