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Anyone wanna help with signature collection this coming weekend, for the Gov, Lt. Gov, and for Eileen Donoghue?
I will have papers, but we need bodies! Email me (lynne [at] leftinlowell.com, with an @ obviously) if you can help! I’m sort of planning on going out this weekend (when we can wear shorts! 75 degrees out!) but if you want to get cracking earlier (once this rain is gone) I can accommodate.
The tentative plan is to descend on local grocery stores in the district with paired-off people (one with Gov/LG papers, the other with Donoghue), where I think it’s easiest to collect signatures. Or if you live in a condo building and want to collect them there, that’d be great. Just let me know! If enough people join up, I will pick a meeting place either Friday night or Saturday for paper and clipboard distribution. (If you own a legal-sized clipboard and can bring your own, even better!)
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March 29th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
Getting siggy with it?
Sorry, yo. I’m doing the chaperone thing at the Anime Boston Convention, all weekend.
March 30th, 2010 at 8:35 am
Holy Week—Easter—POLITICS—No Mix there. Sorry.
March 30th, 2010 at 10:05 am
You know I do love you but I’m kinda registered for the other team. Good luck with the signatures and the tan though.
March 30th, 2010 at 11:11 am
Some of us are atheists. Sunday isn’t Easter, it’s family brunch and eat chocolate day.
However, we’ll probably be going out next weekend as well, whatever people want to do! I’d be happy to hand out a couple sheets to people who want to go out on their own on another weekend. The deadline for sigs is near the end of April, so we have a little time, though not much!
Thom, you are way too smart to bat for the other side! Come into the light!
April 2nd, 2010 at 1:37 pm
“Some of us are atheists. Sunday isn’t Easter, it’s family brunch and eat chocolate day.”
As a wise man once said “You can’t prove God doesn’t exist, you just have to accept it on faith.”
April 3rd, 2010 at 8:02 am
I disagree with that. My line is, “extraordinary claims needs extraordinary evidence.” In the absence of evidence, the only logical course is to not believe the extraordinary claim. The existence of an all-knowing, all-powerful man in the sky who cares about what I eat on Fridays or who I sleep with or whether or not I tell the truth or what place I worship or if I worship at all is, you have to admit, a damned extraordinary claim.
You could say it takes faith for me not to believe that aliens visit us and do experiments all the time (with no evidence that this is true), or that the sky is held up by invisible columns on the backs of turtles. You could say that it takes faith for me to say that Zeus doesn’t exist, that the sky won’t turn red tomorrow, that I can’t ward off bad mojo by hanging the Evil Eye from my doorstep.
If that’s your criteria, that it takes faith to believe that extraordinary claims are not true, then ANYthing could be true, including truly crazy beliefs. I don’t accept that. That’s just another word for abdicating any sort of thought process about any claim by anyone in the world.
Hey look, if someone comes up with incontrovertible evidence of some higher being that sits on high and watches over me, or whatever, I’ll change my mind. Until then, I’ll rely on logic and severe lack of evidence to say, without any silly agnostic caveats, that he doesn’t exist. (And to me, coincidence or the kindness of others is NOT proof that a higher being exists. In ANY other discipline, that would never be accepted as evidence - so why should it be accepted as proof of a higher being?)
April 3rd, 2010 at 8:08 am
I will also say, it’s awfully convenient for the religious to say, well god tests us by not producing certainty of his existence because the leap of faith is an act of holiness or whatever the hell bunk people say about faith and belief.
That’s AWfully convenient. That just shuts down any sort of real conversation about the whole thing. We would, again, never accept this in any other realm of human endeavor other than religion. But when it comes to religion, we can’t have any sort of standards of evidence and logic because, well, religion demands faith.
Malarkey!
April 3rd, 2010 at 8:31 am
Lynne — Hey, this is your blog, but aren’t we getting a bit off-topic from signature collections?
April 3rd, 2010 at 8:39 am
LOL, since when do we ever stay on topic? Especially on a rather less combative subject.
Also, wherever I see a “being an atheist is a matter of faith, too, see, you are just like a religious person!” comment, I have to refute it…it’s something I’ve done a lot of thinking on.
April 3rd, 2010 at 8:40 am
BTW on topic, I WILL be organizing another sig drive next weekend, as I had a lot of people willing to do it in a week rather than today.
April 3rd, 2010 at 9:08 am
Damn it was a joke! I think the “wise man” was actually Woody Allen who is not exactly a noted philosopher or theologian.
April 3rd, 2010 at 11:19 am
LOL Thom, sorry! I just get that commentary far too much and feel the need to not hide the philosophical reasons behind being an atheist.
You have no idea how many people jump all over someone who states they are nonbelievers.
April 3rd, 2010 at 11:25 am
Dunno, Thom; Woody does make rather astute observations from time to time:
http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Woody_Allen
April 3rd, 2010 at 2:25 pm
I’m glad we’re still buds! For the record I am not going to church on Easter, I am eating ham, and for some inexplicable reason following my brain surgery for the aneuyrsm I turned mostly into a Buddhist!
April 3rd, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Thom: Nothing wrong with that
There’s a sitting group in Chelmsford on Tuesday evenings if you’re interested.
April 3rd, 2010 at 7:03 pm
Thom, sorry about the surgery but it could be worse. If they had removed most of your brain you might have become a Gerry Nutter fan.
April 3rd, 2010 at 7:04 pm
Buh dum dum CHING!
April 4th, 2010 at 9:29 am
“There’s a sitting group in Chelmsford on Tuesday evenings if you’re interested”
Details? Sorry I don’t know how to take things off line.
April 4th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Thom:
Feel free to contact me at: http://kalyanamittasangha.wordpress.com/