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August 24th, 2010 at 7:57 am
Thanks for the news about the AFTM Donoghue endorsement. When I don’t have time to do a lot of my own research, I sometimes look to see which orgs have endorsed which candidates…and then often can’t find the info without in-depth searching. I am always surprised that candidates don’t have an easy-to-find “Endorsements” link on their web pages. Does anyone have a straight forward list of the other Donoghue and Doherty endorsements? Thanks!
August 24th, 2010 at 8:14 am
That column is right there on the Sun website.. didn’t you look at the link on the bottom of Doherty’s page?
And usually, the Sun doesn’t mind about copying articles (as long as you link back to them.. I use the alinks plugin to create links automatically for key phrases). If they do, they let you know. I think Doherty could have just clipped out the few appropriate paragraphs myself.
Then again, you assume that he did not ask permission and then attack him for an assumed indiscretion.
But that’s just your way.
August 24th, 2010 at 8:47 am
When one does get permission, one usually says so in the cite. Maybe you don’t, but I guess that’s just your way.
August 24th, 2010 at 9:04 am
Hey Shawn, did you miss the part where I said, “Unless the Doherty campaign got permission from the Sun, they basically are stealing the work.”
I put in the caveat, but maybe reading the full post just isn’t your way?
August 24th, 2010 at 9:14 am
By the way, 1) I didn’t realize the Sun had put the Column back up on the website? and 2) that link at the bottom that isn’t a link (as in not hyperlinked) is likely, given the manner in which it sits at the end (not hyperlinked) and the type of link it is, is from the copy-paste forced-attribution the Sun has on its website. Try copying and pasting any of part or whole of any article and you get that. It’s a sort of fail-safe for copying from their website (not that it can’t be deleted from your paste). So it’s not like they went out of their way to link it (it’s automatic with any copy-paste). 3) That doesn’t make it kosher - and just because the Sun sort of doesn’t bother to assert its rights doesn’t mean they don’t have them, and that it’s just not cool to rip off an entire article like that. I NEVER do, not in anything I post. I quote as little as I possibly can, for purposes of commentary, and link back. That’s the real way you’re supposed to do it. If you’re going to want it on your website, you should ask.
Mr. is right - if you link with permission, you generally say at the top “reprinted/reposted with permission” - this was pretty obviously a simple copy-paste lift job, with the link at the end appended automatically by the Sun’s website javascript. As I’ve said in the past, I don’t think much of the outfit handling his website - they are obviously not that great at what they do (or they’d have researched better security).
And of course, it doesn’t negate at all the fact that it’s questionable in the first place…certainly to lift the entire thing which is mostly irrelevant, and really, the parts that are relevant are not exactly ringing endorsements anyway. I’m allowed to question the wisdom, right? Or is that off limits now too?
August 24th, 2010 at 9:23 am
LowellforFree - I think generally both have been posting them as press releases and not much else. I guess at the beginning of a race, it’s hard to have a whole page with only a few endorsements, until enough of them come out to make a difference.
Eileen’s announcements can be found on her press releases page, and Doherty’s, well, good luck…I think you have to scroll through the stuff on his home page. I don’t see a press releases page per se.
Looks like so far:
For Donoghue, we have Lowell Firefighters Union, Sheila Capone-Wulsin (former executive director of the Massachusetts Women’s Political Caucus), and the American Federation of Teachers Massachusetts.
For Doherty, it appears to be, Former state Rep. Geoff Hall of Westford, the Lowell Police Association, and the Massachusetts Teachers Association.
I always liked the idea of a list of individual endorsements (prominent and non prominent citizens of the district alike) on candidates’ sites but neither is doing that.
I expect with so little time left in the race, we’re either going to see a rash of organizational endorsements, or else, not that many will bother to endorse, which is rather too bad. Endorsement processes are hard work, though!
BTW interesting site you have there, I’ll link it somewhere.
August 24th, 2010 at 9:46 am
Thanks, Lynne. That is very helpful. I agree about posting lists of individual endorsements. I always read those lists when I can find them. Maybe the candidates will take your suggestion.
August 24th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Why don’t you just buy the electronic version of the paper and stop complaining about it already? It’s $9.50 a month for god sake. The Newspaper is not a government service supported by taxes. It’s a business. And they rightly figured out that the one thing people actually want to read that they print is “the column” on Sunday. It’s a good business decision for them.
August 24th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
I don’t buy the Sun because I choose not to. I thought that was pretty clear actually…been saying that for years.
When they have good leadership to match the decent reporting (that is, decent when they are allowed to do their thing unhindered) I will snatch up a full subscription post haste.
The other thing is, it’s a really thinning newspaper, which makes me wonder if it’s really worth it. I mean, maybe 3-5 items a week are of interest. Why would I pay for that?