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State Senate Race by the Numbers

by Lynne at 2:40 pm.

Dick Howe has a great post up comparing numbers from the OCPF reports that are now out. I’m sure there’s a lot more detail to delve into, but I wanted to comment on some of the numbers. Mostly, because I want to see just how many more “new” desperate drive-by Doherty commenters attacking Eileen I can get before the primary. Ha.

The big sense of this campaign is that some less-than-beloved background characters have been shaking the trees for Doherty - and the feeling is, not because they love Doherty, but because even a toaster, for them, is better than a Senator Eileen Donoghue. The fact that there’s a lot of out of district support (28% to 53%) and big maxed-out donors (158 as opposed to 78) for Doherty as compared to Donoghue supports that, in a general kind of way.

The “average” donation is about the same, but Dick also mentions that Donoghue aggregated her small donations (under $50) which is common, while Doherty line-itemed each, so the average would actually drop for Donoghue if we knew total number of small donors including the under-$50s. How much it would drop, is uncertain.

But there’s another number, one most won’t pay much heed, that I found interesting. In the “Amount spent on paid staff” category, Dick lists Doherty as having spent $3575, while Donoghue spent $26,206. That is clearly a huge difference.

And I think you can see the difference in the campaigns. Doherty might be surrounded by young kids from college (supposedly), but he ran a relatively unprofessional campaign. Instead of spending some of his money making sure his communications, messaging, and other high-level aspects of his campaign went smoothly, he had to have been letting some big decisions be run by young volunteers. Meanwhile, Donoghue hired staff to manage those things, and I think, had a more coherent campaign all together.

It helps of course that Donoghue has some pretty extensive experience running a larger campaign, as well as smaller ones.

Now, on first blush, one might think that, well, wouldn’t it be better to be able to attract volunteers for your staff than to have to hire any? It would seem to make sense, except that the end results are a sloppy campaign as opposed to a tight ship. Trust me when I say the Donoghue campaign runs a tight ship and have very specific goals and strategies worked out. And I know volunteering pretty well, too, and I wouldn’t want to run a campaign this large (district-wide) with mostly volunteers in charge. You need people dedicated to the job, and that means paying something. I wouldn’t want to have a volunteer web developer to help me on a project - I will attract better talent and be a bigger priority if I pay someone. The same holds true for campaigning on a broader scale than locally (where you can get away with an all-volunteer force).

The paid staff number makes you wonder who really was advising Doherty during this race. Was it the low paid or unpaid staff, fresh out of college (or still in it) who had little actual experience? Or was much of the advice from other sources, ones that don’t show up on OCPF? Whoever it was, I can say pretty objectively (all “biases” aside) that the messaging and the tone was pretty unprofessional and ultimately, will likely cost Doherty the race - and more importantly, his reputation going forward. I think people will remember the photoshopped puppet/crown debacle, or the push-like poll, for quite some time - and not in the way Doherty intended.

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31 Responses to “State Senate Race by the Numbers”

joe from Lowell Says:
September 9th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
Doherty has been running a Congressional race for state senate.

Eileen has been running a city council race for state senate.

I don’t know if Doherty is being advised by professional politicos, or by wanna bes, but his campaign has all the hallmarks of a sophisticated attack campaign. The message poll (which I still say wasn’t a push poll), the negative attacks, the constant stream of mailers - it’s feels like a campaign following an RNC script for Congressional nominees.

But this isn’t a Congressional seat, and you can’t attack a respected member of a community to the people who know her, the way you can attack some pol nobody’s ever seen except on TV. I feel like somebody on the street came up to me and started talking trash about my next-door neighbor.
Lynne Says:
September 9th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
I don’t know about sophisticated. I think it’s been rather…childish. I know attack campaigns generally are, but cleverness was not really in evidence. Doesn’t take a genius to come up with the attacks he has, for the most part. Or how he used them, for that matter. (Constant barrage of press releases the Sun then prints largely untouched, it would appear.) *I* can write press releases!

In particular, the last few attacks have just derailed. A clever attack would have been more subtle, and also, would have to be coupled with something else - an alternative. Bush didn’t win in 2004 solely because he (or his surrogates) attacked Kerry on his strengths. He also won on some of his ideas - as silly as they are to a lot of people, and as disastrous as we now know them to be. Ideas such as being tough on security, being the war president, etc. You can’t just pull down the other guy, you have to figure out a way to lift people’s perception of you as well.

Seeing as he’s not an incumbent (as Bush was), you don’t even have to “fight the tide” of anti-incumbency on top of it all.

But we never got that part of the campaign, not really. He had a few ideas, but didn’t constantly talk about them in a way that resonated. Or raised people’s perception of him - as a relatively unknown, you have to put out your own bio and platform all the stronger.

I do agree though, that the tactic in general doesn’t even work in the first place against a respected member of a local community. I think he thought he could get some leverage in the towns, but Eileen ran those towns (save one) in the MA-05 race, so she’s not unknown there either.

I disagree with one thing - that Eileen has been running a city council race for state senate. The organization they’ve put together is definitely higher-level than a CC race. In CC/SC races, voter ID is not a huge part of the process. Especially because you’re running for one of nine seats. You knock on doors, sure, and you might even do some voter ID but it’s hard to use it in that context. So most people don’t bother. But for a good, grassroots, organized campaign across a larger district WITH a party primary, a GOTV strategy is essential and a good one will win every time.
joe from Lowell Says:
September 9th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
Lynne,

Do you really think the attacks were on a lower emotional level than those commonly found in Republican campaigns? I don’t.

As for ideas, I’ve gotten mailers from Doherty about issues - and they were good. Clean energy! Something about schools! All my Democratic taste buds perked up. He also pushed issues a lot at his events and through his door-knocking.

“I disagree with one thing - that Eileen has been running a city council race for state senate. The organization they’ve put together is definitely higher-level than a CC race.”

Yes, it’s like a great, big city council campaign - which I don’t mean as a put-down, btw. I mean that she’s kept it very local, leaned a lot on her existing reputation within the community and record (she never had to introduce herself, for example), the heavy reliance on word of mouth from, for instance, the neighborhood activists in her web ad. I wish all politics was like that. There’s no way a candidate could use a strategy like that in a Congressional race, for example. It says something about Eileen that she could make it work in an area the size of a state senate district.
Jack Mitchell Says:
September 9th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
THIS IS SOOOOOOOOO TRUE!
…you can’t attack a respected member of a community to the people who know her, the way you can attack some pol nobody’s ever seen except on TV.
LowellResident Says:
September 9th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
Lynne,

Do you really think Doherty is being that badly advised? Have you seen how many young people have come out to his events, to canvass for him, to work for him, to actually DO something for him. I was at the debate tonight and she was outnumbered like 3-1 in supporters outside and inside. Doherty has courted the youth vote because just like they came out in 08′ they will come out in this election because someone actually cares about him. You talk all about how he hasn’t spent that much on his staffers. Has it occurred to you that people want to work for him because they believe in him as opposed to doing it for the money. His staffers have worked extremely hard. I have constantly seen them pounding the pavement and doing it on their own time and in many cases for free. Spending 26,000 on the staff of a 7 month State Senate race is ridiculous. As for the whole tight ship thing, many 21st century grassroots campaigns are not as traditional as the campaigns Eileen is used to running. Doherty knows how to run a campaign in terms of listening to all sides of the argument. He has gone door to door himself to hundreds if not thousands of people talking to them and has sent his army of passionate young people out to do the same. The proof is in the pudding. Doherty has people that want to see him elected, he has the support of young people from UMass Lowell and other places, he has the support of labor, which is critical in his district, and he has the support of the teachers, which is also critical. Eileen has support, but old name recognition isn’t going to be enough in this race and I think the fact that Doherty has engaged the community the way he has is fantastic.
Paul@01852 Says:
September 9th, 2010 at 10:37 pm
I was also at the debate tonight and beg to differ with your estimate of supporters outside. I estimate that Donoghue’s sign-holders outnumbered Doherty’s by approximately 2 to 1 and if you wish to dispute me I also have pictures to prove my point. Inside the auditorium there was no way to estimate one group from another since there was only applause at 3 points: once when debate moderator Michael Goldman asked for a round after introducing BOTH candidates, once during the debate when the applause was for a comment made by Mr Goldman himself and once at the end of the debate when Mr Goldman once again asked for a round for BOTH candidates. LowellResident if you are going to make statements of FACT be sure you have EVIDENCE to support your (so-called) FACTS!
Come on Ei-Lynee Says:
September 9th, 2010 at 10:45 pm
Lynne, since you apparently couldn’t take it the first time and rejected this post…

I swear your only purpose on this blog is to find things to say that aren’t true. Fortunately from your shameless promotion of Donoghue constantly with no reference to anything about Doherty besides the things you don’t like, I know I can’t take your opinion on any matter involving this race seriously. But to honestly believe (as well as take information at face value instead of checking the facts, like you do when you spout about the “lies” Doherty has obviously fact-checked and distributed publicly based on public record) that Doherty ran a campaign of this intensity for six months and paid just over $3,000 on staff is asinine. I mean, come on Lynne. I know you’re not a reporter or a professional but that’s just bad. And then to claim Donoghue’s campaign is more coherent and organized- well, I’ve read debate transcripts, I’ve checked web sites, I’ve read press releases- Donoghue has not told me ANYTHING about what she wants to do. However if I want to know what Doherty plans to do, I’ll check his website for the many plans posted throughout this campaign that you have failed to mention (but they are based on research so they might be beyond your scrutiny) or call their office. Doherty’s office has called me more than once with people knowledgeable about his platform and ready to stand by their support of him.

I’ll admit, I thought the last mail piece was a bit of a low blow and not necessarily what is needed in this type of race. But, there’s utterly classless…Then, There’s Lynne. What happened, did you listen to the debate tonight? Did you realize your Congressional-race coached lobbyist influenced candidate has yet failed to answer a question to date without at least the majority of time being spent referencing her 12 years on city council?

You’ve spent this entire campaign debasing all the aspects of Doherty’s campaign that he has done better than Donoghue. But to openly insult the staff and volunteers- young kids getting into politics for the first time- because you know you’re beat is truly pathetic. Never complain about how the youth is apathetic if you are the sort that breeds a world of big-talking armchair politicians whose only consolation is ripping on college kids for working harder FOR FREE than your millionaire Belvidere lobbyist lapdog who has done nothing but tote an outdated record and paid for out-of-district consultants to run her campaign. (Side note- Donoghue claims reference to her past public record, like certain cases for criminals she has defended, is irrelevant because it is the past- but her run on city council, also outdated, is relevant because it’s all the “good” she’s done).

I am not for political gimmicks or that sort of unproductive posturing that is better suited for the “blogosphere.” I am for hard work, determination, loyalty to a set of beliefs and the will to work for the common good. The young kids could be out partying and having fun and going to the beach, but they’re here working for the candidate they believe in. Not because of the mail pieces that are sent to voters. Not because of allegiance to an old politicians old networks. They’re here because these people believe in Chris Doherty and what he does. They are not well-paid consultants. They are paid by their faith in Doherty and his vision for the future.

Lynne, here is a link to the Office of Campaign and Political Finance’s online financial records. Feel free to check them.

http://www.efs.cpf.state.ma.us/SearchReportCriteria.aspx?type=candidate

I think you will find the amount of retired people on that list worthy of mention- more than “just them dumb kids” believe in Doherty.
In fact, people across the state from all levels of experience and professionalism support him. He’s not dependent on the old network of friends to get him through another campaign loss. He is running for the first time, and working harder with dedicated supporters making less money and doing more than Donoghue’s GOB network of old political hacks.

I am glad that we have not yet come to an age where free speech is forbidden, but when we do, you’re among those for whom I shall breath a sigh o
Kim Scott Says:
September 9th, 2010 at 11:31 pm
I have been a bit out if the loop on the election and I just made a quick observation from the campaign finance website. Just looking for a few answers if anyone knows them-

Why does Doherty have the support of the trade unions?

Why does Donoghue have the support of the merit shops (Associated Building contractors)?

Do you know if Eileen happened to be against a PLA (project labor agreement at Umass Lowell at all?

My company is a member of the ABC and they tend to endorse and support Republican candidates. (Charlie Baker dinner meeting/endorsement/check this month) A big burning issue for the ABC (non-union) has been the Umass PLA. Just trying to figure out why the ABC and it’s members are supporting Eileen.
UML Student Says:
September 9th, 2010 at 11:38 pm
I don’t know what debate you went to Paul, but the one at Nashoba Valley Tech where Chris and Eileen actually were was pretty clearly dominated by Doherty supporters. We were there an hour before any of you. We covered more area than any of you. While all of Eileen’s supporters were crowded up on one corner Chris had supporters across the entire strip of land in front of the school and then some. Let’s see the pictures…I doubt they’re full-scale, showing the actual image commuters saw, but clipped so it looks good for your sake.
Tommy Says:
September 10th, 2010 at 6:39 am
First of all, Chris Doherty is no Barack Obama. The Doherty campaign is probably the most persuasive evidence yet that the term “grassroots campaign” is way overused.

Also, I’m calling bullshit on his claim that he is out knocking on 10,000 doors. The guy makes Caspar look like a finalist in a Hawaiian Tropic contest. When is he doing this so called knocking? Midnight? I’m sure that’s not going to win over very many voters.
best4lowell Says:
September 10th, 2010 at 9:36 am
Okay, really!?!? 10,000? From my calculation, he would have to have visited 93 houses a day for that to be true. Given walking to a house, speaking with people, let’s say that averages about 4 minutes per house. (A low estimate). That would mean he’s been knocking on doors for 6.2 hours per day since he declared. (He also stated that he visited 10,000 back at the Groton debate, which would put it at a little more than 7 hours a day). I doubt it. Saying you visited that many houses doesn’t impress me. Smearing your opponent doesn’t either. Nor does this barrage of “plans” he “has” (how likely is it that a senate freshman is going to walk onto beacon hill and put their plans into action? Sounds great, but I find it hard to believe the others will just fall in line).
You want to win this race? Show substance, class, integrity. I haven’t seen it yet. You’ve got til Tuesday.
Paul@01852 Says:
September 10th, 2010 at 10:20 am
UML Student you can check Eileen’s web page for my pictures. None were edited in ANY way including cropping or Photoshopping to add crowns (or for that matter Devil’s horns and tails). I stand by my PERSONAL estimate of 2 Eileen signholders to every one of Doherty’s and I stand by my statement that there is no way to determine the ratio of Donoghue to Doherty supporters within the auditorium. If you or LowellResident have proof of the truth of your estimates please share it. Otherwise your credibility is questionable. Your cohort, “Come on Ei-Lynee,” claims that the Doherty campaign stands for truth; if that’s so then show your evidence.
Tim Little Says:
September 10th, 2010 at 11:56 am
Tuesday cannot come soon enough.
Lynne Says:
September 10th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
“Lynne, since you apparently couldn’t take it the first time and rejected this post…”

I haven’t even BEEN on the blog to do moderation, so it must have been you that screwed it up. Not everything is nefarious. Grow up.
Maggie Says:
September 10th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
To blogger # 7. I AM retired and I fully support Eileen. Doherty is not even worth a glance. Eileen has class and the smarts to do the job well. Doherty uh …….. And the number of supporters that show up for a debate probably has very little to do with who the ones that actually show up to vote. A lot of us old fogie don’t drive at night.
Green Ben Says:
September 10th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
I’m a longtime lurker, first time commenter. I work in Lowell but live in Westford. I drove by Nashoba last night during my evening stint as kid chauffeur and I saw Donoghue signs and my neighbors who were holding them. I’d agree with Paul@01852 that it was pretty close to 2-1.

And, the only ‘knocking’ Chris Doherty has done at my home has been the trash he sends knocking around my mailbox. Eileen actually knocked on my door, and after talking with her about the issues, she earned my vote.
Paul@01852 Says:
September 10th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
Thanks for your support Ben. I have not yet seen any of the “Campaign for Truth”-ers provide ANY evidence of their claims. They can only resurrect 20 year old court cases to attempt to paint Eileen as soft on crime and illegal immigrants. If they want to make comparisons ask them to provide numbers for how many defendants charged with drug crimes Chris Doherty agreed to plea-bargain down to a penalty of probation like Eileen did with ONE defendant she represented! I’ll bet the count is at least in the hundreds if not thousands!
Lynne Says:
September 10th, 2010 at 9:59 pm
What Tim L said, and also, FYI…signs don’t vote…

I miss the MA-05 race! Luckily, all those classy credible folk who lost the primary back then appear to be poised to graduate to the state Senate…

LOL at Paul RE plea bargains! Heh. Turnabout, kids, turnabout…Just because you watch Law and Order, doesn’t mean you know everything about how the justice system works (though, the show really is pretty awesome).
Marty Says:
September 10th, 2010 at 10:02 pm
I am amused by the fact that you believe the Donaghue campaign has been coherant. Until recently it has been non existant. The biggest question of the summer has been “What is Eileen doing,have you seen her campaign?
Lynne Says:
September 11th, 2010 at 7:39 am
It’s been knocking on doors and attending events and doing house parties and phone calling - in other words, talking to PEOPLE.

But hey, if it’s not sending nasty stuff to the Lowell Sun to print every week, her campaign must not exist, right?

Sigh.
JR Says:
September 11th, 2010 at 11:09 am
I have been following this race from afar over the internet, not being a district voter. A few comments: if Chris Doherty is a typical Democrat in your part of the world (the home of Democratic Blue), I truly fear for the party. Also, those ads are an abomination. How they would persuade any undecided voter is a real mystery. The RNC is probably taking notes and laughing.

Speaking for myself, based on what I’ve seen of Doherty character or lack of same, I would immediately vote for Donoghue and encourage my friends and neighbors to do the same. Doherty seems to be running one of the most classless campaigns I have ever witnessed in 30+ years in the Democratic Party. From what I have seen and read, Donoghue is clearly the right choice.
Amanda Says:
September 11th, 2010 at 11:23 pm
Lynne,

I’ve only read your blog a few times, and to be honest I don’t care that much about this campaign, but I’ve come to two. big realizations by reading your blog. Firstly, you don’t know a damn thing about actual politics and secondly your a 40 year old women trying to be professional and right a blog yet you say FYI and WTF, seriously are you sure you’re not in high school. And actually telling someone who took the time to read your pointless blog and respond to grow up well I think maybe you’re the classless person here.

The second thing that I’ve realized is that you know absolutely nothing about politics. Lowell Resident is completely right about the fact that Doherty has dedicated volunteers is far better than having payed workers who actually don’t care about your campaign at all they just care about getting a pay check at the end of the month. People like you probably have this stupid notion that college kids don’t care about anything but this campaign goes to show you that they do and that they actually get off our asses and go out in the community to help a cause they believe in. It’s college kids that are going out in society today to fight for things like gay marriage and women’s rights to their bodies etc. And good for Chris for actually going to the college kids because guess what he’s gotten his name out there by going and knocking on doors and talking to people and what the hell has Eileen done, I have no idea.
joe from Lowell Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 11:10 am
“what the hell has Eileen done, I have no idea.”

Wow.

Hokay then.
Lynne Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 11:13 am
Oh Amanda…you have one of the more amusing comments this week! Let me get this fully straight. You don’t know me, and you don’t read this blog, but you KNOW that I don’t know anything about politics. Too cute!

Dear, you got my age completely wrong, you obviously know *nothing* about blogging, and you repeated your “second” point in a rather blatant showing of doing what you’re accusing someone else of doing, which is to say, abusing the English language.

Seriously, you’re in college? Total waste of an education…just because Doherty got a few college kids involved - a) doesn’t mean Donoghue hasn’t got any and b) doesn’t really say much about the running of his campaign, which has been pathetic, at least on the messaging/strategy front. Frankly, I’m not so sure about the GOTV front either. I keep *hearing* from supporters he’s “the grassroots candidate” and yet, his campaign seems to rely heavily on pathetic, distorted attacks via press release, really terrible flyers with what he obviously thinks is cleverly photoshopped images, and a television spot - for a state Senate race! Sounds wicked grassroots to me…

What the hell Eileen has done? Maybe you’re too young to have been around for all the things she has done, but I would recommend some research before you come around here accusing other people of a lack of research.

“far better than having payed workers who actually don’t care about your campaign at all they just care about getting a pay check at the end of the month”

Right, I got it now…so people who get a paycheck at the end of the month don’t care about their jobs…wait til you get into the real world out there and get some experience before you make that assertion.

Sigh. Schooled by a college kid! What will come next?? *rolls eyes*
ann Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
This race has been a joke. I’ll take the lesser of 2 evils - Doherty and hope a real candidate comes fourth in 2 years.
Lynne Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
Actually, I think the number of drive by comments is the real funny joke in all this…
Come on Ei-Lynne Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
Lynne, the point was this: working hard for no money shows devotion. Working for money shows need. Volunteers do work expecting no pay. Workers do work expecting it. You may be devoted to a job and get paid, but if the pay stops- what then? Will you work for free? Probably not! A fundamental difference, methinks.

The crap about the real world- I don’t think that these kids are volunteering because they don’t need a job and don’t have anything better to do. I think they are making a sacrifice by not spending that time working for a pay check. Instead, they actually donate their time and resources! You no thems stupid koledge kids is to dumb to has a good jobs so they isn’t be able to make good money so they has to be making next to nothing! Come on man. When are you going to give it up? How many times do you need to be backed into a corner for your hypocrisy and then defend yourself with the tactics you condemn? You had been slamming Doherty MONTHS before his “negative” piece came out.

Oh and cut the crap about “drive by” comments. This is the internet. People do not live in your blog. They search for keywords, your drivel pops up, and yeah, they want to respond to it, usually in disbelief that you’ve learned how to use an electric typing box. Christ, if this was a newspaper (about as unbiased as the Sun is in this race) I wouldn’t pay for it, so why would I “subscribe” to your blog on a serious level? Stop pretending this is a salon for intellectuals. As far as I can tell, I’ve seen a bunch of people bully the newcomers because they come here reading your propaganda and reacting, then you criticize them for not wanting to “stay engaged.” Damn, write something worth reading. I can’t stand the way you type like a high school student. Oh noes! I says’d it! Actually, more than any of the subjective garbage you spew, your writing style is what infuriates me. I honestly get sick reading what you type. I’d rather read a 4th grader’s handwritten interpretation of “Ulysses.”

You’re writing about things that concern more people than your little universe of pissed off Donoghue fans. If you don’t want to have this be a public forum, make it membership only and all 10 of you can be pissed off all day and none of the mean Doherty supporters can come and make you feel bad about picking a lame-legged horse.

I sometimes wonder about YOUR credentials and YOUR credibility. I mean, I haven’t seen you do any fact-checking, I haven’t seen you make an original statement, I haven’t seen you consider airing the other side of this race. I have noticed you have a lot of time to devote to this blog. Do you have a job? I mean, besides your roll as an expert on political communications. If constantly yelling your opinion means you are qualified to comment then I think I can find a couple of lunatic Jesus freaks on a street corner who can be of service to you. I know their opinions are credible, with the way they spend so much time on the same dirty street corner yelling about the world’s imminent end!

You do have one good purpose here- it amuses me every time I consider printing your “qualified statements” for the purpose of wiping my ass, but I know I wouldn’t want to really waste that much ink.
Lynne Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
See you at the polls.
Come on Ei-Lynne Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
I’ll be voting for Buba!
Kim Says:
September 12th, 2010 at 11:37 pm
Amanda you “write” a blog and you vote for the “right” candidate. Amanda, will you be voting for Doherty or do you live outside the district?
joe from Lowell Says:
September 13th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Who’se “Buba?”

Is he friends with this “Ellen” people keep talking about?

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