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February 19, 2012

He’s Effing INSANE!

by at 2:22 pm.

This, this is the latest savior of the Republican primary contest?

Santorum, who in a 2008 speech to Ave Maria University, claims that America’s institutions, from academia to Protestant Christianity to its politics, have fallen to Satan. I’m not actually using hyperbole here, it’s what he actually says!

I think this means he’s certifiable crazy. And, the winger Protestant Christian wing of the party is so going to love being called agents of Satan. I actually regret that this came out so early - would have been better if he won the nomination and then this got circulated.

And people wonder how I became an atheist? Transcript is after the flip, courtesy of the Kyle Mantyla’s post.

This is not a political war at all. This is not a cultural war. This is a spiritual war. And the Father of Lies has his sights on what you would think the Father of Lies would have his sights on: a good, decent, powerful, influential country - the United States of America. If you were Satan, who would you attack in this day and age. There is no one else to go after other than the United States and that has been the case now for almost two hundred years, once America’s preeminence was sown by our great Founding Fathers.

He didn’t have much success in the early days. Our foundation was very strong, in fact, is very strong. But over time, that great, acidic quality of time corrodes even the strongest foundations. And Satan has done so by attacking the great institutions of America, using those great vices of pride, vanity, and sensuality as the root to attack all of the strong plants that has so deeply rooted in the American tradition.

He was successful. He attacks all of us and he attacks all of our institutions. The place where he was, in my mind, the most successful and first successful was in academia. He understood pride of smart people. He attacked them at their weakest, that they were, in fact, smarter than everybody else and could come up with something new and different. Pursue new truths, deny the existence of truth, play with it because they’re smart. And so academia, a long time ago, fell.

And you say “what could be the impact of academia falling?” Well, I would have the argument that the other structures that I’m going to talk about here had root of their destruction because of academia. Because what academia does is educate the elites in our society, educates the leaders in our society, particularly at the college level. And they were the first to fall.

And so what we saw this domino effect, once the colleges fell and those who were being education in our institutions, the next was the church. Now you’d say, ‘wait, the Catholic Church’? No. We all know that this country was founded on a Judeo-Christian ethic but the Judeo-Christian ethic was a Protestant Judeo-Christian ethic, sure the Catholics had some influence, but this was a Protestant country and the Protestant ethic, mainstream, mainline Protestantism, and of course we look at the shape of mainline Protestantism in this country and it is in shambles, it is gone from the world of Christianity as I see it. So they attacked mainline Protestantism, they attacked the Church, and what better way to go after smart people who also believe they’re pious to use both vanity and pride to also go after the Church.

After that, you start destroying the Church and you start destroying academia, the culture is where their next success was and I need not even go into the state of the popular culture today. Whether its sensuality of vanity of the famous in America, they are peacocks on display and they have taken their poor behavior and made it fashionable. The corruption of culture, the corruption of manners, the corruption of decency is now on display whether it’s the NBA or whether it’s a rock concert or whether it’s on a movie set.

The fourth, and this was harder, now I know you’re going to challenge me on this one, but politics and government was the next to fall. You say, ‘you would think they would be the first to fall, as fallible as we are in politics,’ but people in political life get elected by ordinary folks from lots of places all over the country where the foundations of this country are still strong. So while we may certainly have had examples, the body politic held up fairly well up until the last couple of decades, but it is falling too.

18 Responses to “He’s Effing INSANE!”

  1. Christopher Says:

    The fifth paragraph of the quote is missing some antecedents or something as I’m having a very hard time following. Mainline Protestantism (in layman’s terms the sane ones) has millions of members which trend moderate to liberal. Evangelical Protestantism (those are your wingers, at least institutionally - far be it for me to paint every individual with the same broad brush) does have more members, but true religion was never supposed to be about popularity.

  2. Lynne Says:

    He’s calling intellectuals and Protestants the fallen of Satan and you’re worried about grammar?

    The dude’s just loony tunes.

  3. Jack Says:

    Odd. I was raised around Catholicism and sent both kids to parochial K-8. Satan isn’t a big character in most Catholic’s life. Not nearly as much as, say, the Baptists.

    Maybe Renee or Cliff can testify?

  4. Lynne Says:

    Santa was probably a bigger character, n’est pas? ;)

  5. Lynne Says:

    Oh and I too was a Catholic and no, my priest did not have a hard on for blaming everything on Satan, either.

  6. Ryan Says:

    I always thought the fears of citizens on the right in this country during JFK’s candidacy were a little silly when they thought JFK would be a theocratic yes-man to the Pope.

    However, it’s very clear that that’s *exactly* what Santorum would be. He doesn’t want a democratic America — as in a Democracy, not party affiliation — and he doesn’t want a Christian America, either. He wants a Catholic America and would use the government to benefit Catholics.

    In fact, he already has.

    This guy is out to lunch.

    Thank goodness I’m sure about 99% of Catholics would agree, if they listened to this video.

  7. Ryan Says:

    It’s really important to note that Santorum isn’t “most Catholics.” He’s an Opus-Dei type. I don’t actually think he’s an official member, but he’s publicly been a sympathizer. For those who don’t know, Opus-Dei types are every bit as crazy as the fringiest christian rightwingers there are, including dominionists and hardcore evangelicals and baptists. They have far more in common with those christian right groups than they do mainstream catholics, in terms of ideology, beliefs and goals out of what they want between their government and religion.

  8. Christopher Says:

    I really wasn’t trying to be the grammar police for its own sake this time; I genuinely was confused by his comment because he says, “they attacked mainline protestantism” and I could not figure out who “they” was. I thought he was trying to argue that mainline protestantism attacked “real” Christianity so the sentence sounded backwards relative to what I expected him to say.

  9. Jack Says:

    By “they,” doesn’t he mean Legion?

  10. joe from Lowell Says:

    I think this means he’s certifiable crazy.

    It doesn’t. He’s as sane and you and me.

    Santorum’s problem is ideological and philosophical, not psychiatric.

    That actually makes it worse. This means the problem is not specific to Rick Santorum individually, and that he can infect other people.

  11. joe from Lowell Says:

    Odd. I was raised around Catholicism and sent both kids to parochial K-8. Satan isn’t a big character in most Catholic’s life. Not nearly as much as, say, the Baptists.

    I agree. I wonder if Santorum would describe himself as a “Charismatic Catholic?” I knew of friends-of-a-friend who spoke in tongues. White American Catholics.

  12. Elias Nugator Says:

    Don’t over estimate the power of Rick’s dementia. He has been so shrill for so very long that as a defense mechanism most citizen’s simply screen him out. Thats why he can howl like a spent toddler for blood, dynamite and revenge and seemingly get away with it.

  13. C R Krieger Says:

    I believe I may be the person Joe from Lowell may be referring to in his 20/14:14 post.

    As for Christopher’s comment, he is crrect.  There is indeed a factual and a theological difference between “Mainline” Protestants and “Evangelicals, Fundamentalists and Pentacostals”.  These United States are a very diverse land.

    I expects there are Pentacostal Episcopalians who believe that some of the Parishes of their “Mainline” brethren are under the sway of Satan.  Of course, such Pentacostal Episcopalian Parishes may well have already switched their allegiance to dioceses in Africa.

    But then even Ricard Dawkins (The Selfish Gene) isn’t 100% sure.

    As for Rick Santorum, if you are strongly opposed to him it is too late to switch your Registration to vote against him on 6 March.  You will now have to wait until November to express your outrage, assuming your Republican family members and friends have backed him up through the convention.

    Sent from the parking lot of Consumer Auto Parts.

    Regards  —  Cliff

  14. C R Krieger Says:

    A typo.  Yes, we do need print preview!

    Regards  —  Cliff

  15. Mr. Lynne Says:

    True that RD isn’t 100%, but absolute certainty isn’t necessary for atheism. The confusion is from the fact that non-belief of a proposition and positive assertion of the negative of a proposition are not the same thing, but are often used interchangably in conversation. Dawkins refers to a scale that he uses to indicate the gradation:

    http://christophersisk.com/dawkins-belief-scale-images/

    If I remember correctly, Dawkins is a 6.5 (possibly a 6). That’s about where I am too.

    Lynne isn’t likely to have to worry about Santorum support in her family - they are much more into Ron Paul.

  16. Mr. Lynne Says:

    The article you linked to indicates that he claimed to be a 6.9. I’ll have to check my ‘God Delusion’ book to see what he said in there.

  17. Jack Says:

    That makes me -
    “2.De-facto Theist: I cannot know for certain but I strongly believe in God and I live my life on the assumption that he is there.”

    And I don’t believe in the “God” of The Bible. I’m okay with the premise of an indescribable “Devine.”

    As such, I don’t believe in Satan. There may be an aspect of the Devine that fulfills the “scope of work” of the Satan myth, but not a discrete entity that is evil yin to the good yang.

    Big Bang Theory suggests that it is all of the same “stuff.” Thus, I can’t accept polar opposites. A battery has a positive terminal and a negative terminal. You need both connected to the circut to make the juice flow.

  18. C R Krieger Says:

    Can we focus on the important issue here, please, and not get diverted.  Print Preview.

    Thanks

    Regards  —  Cliff

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