Whoever created this ad clearly didn’t get the memo about how many American Catholics dissent from Church teaching on these matters. Plus, from a historical perspective, the idea of the Church as the defender of religious liberty is hilarious.
Clearly, the “Catholic League” is either mentally deficient or history illiterate, or both. Are they forgetting that Europeans went to America to ESCAPE the Catholic Lunatic Fringe and their draconian, mysoginist, racist, anti-semetic retardedness? And now they actually think they have an influence in what draconian, mysoginist laws the government should pass? Do they own a dictionary? Can they look up the word “Freedom”? Because if they had the intelligence of a 6yr old, they would know that FREEDOM OF CHOICE is freedom, FREEDOM TO DECIDE IF AND WHEN TO HAVE CHILDREN, is a freedom and trying to subject women to Catholic lunacy against birth control and abortion is ANTI-FREEDOM! How about the Catholic League STFU already, before we, the people of America, decide to treat them the way they’ve treated anyone and everyone who a) disagreed with their lunacy, and b) outted the Catholic lunacy for all to see.
Ya had to figure, after years of Southern Baptist evangelical preachers getting rich and lobbying the GOP, some charlatans would pop up among the Catholics.
Most of the Catholics I know, keep to themselves. This type of rabid proselytizing is not in their comfort zone. Rick Santorum was freakish.
What is wrong with this video? It is urging people to vote. It is not even telling them who to vote for. The ad is urging support for certain values just as the commenters above are urging support for certain values.
I thnk Jack’s point is that if a Muslim group produced a video almost exactly like this one — just substituting Qu’ranic quotes for Biblical ones, etc. — the uproar from the Right (Pamela Geller, et al) would probably be deafening.
Actually, it’s quite clear that that ad is targeted to conservative Catholics. Per Chris Mooney, author of The Republican Brain:
There’s now a staggering amount of research on the psychological and even the physiological traits of people who opt for conservative ideologies. And on average, you see people who are more wedded to certainty, and to having fixed beliefs. You also see people who are more sensitive to fear and threat — in a way that can be measured in their bodily responses to certain types of stimuli.
The ad’s imagery/message clearly plays to conservatives’ fear response in way that a liberal (or nonpartisan) ad would not.
Left in Lowell is guilty of your definition of propaganda. It has a certain world view and is advocating it. I am here to remind you when the emperor has no clothes. The video is only encouraging people vote. The left is always crying we need more people or is it that they only want certain people vote?
Publius,
I don’t care if like minded people organize and vote. What I mind, and our Founders concur, is when they attempt to codify their dogma.
Rick Santorum can campaign however he likes. Rick Santorum’s approach to governing is an affront to our Constitution. I took a pledge to defend our Constitution from “all enemies.”
Publius — The proprietors of Left in Lowell are up front about their leftward bias; those behind the “Test of Fire” ad are pushing a rightward agenda. So what?
I doubt the ad’s creators would claim they weren’t advocating a particular political perspective. Why the need to present the ad as “only encouraging people to vote” when the message is clearly more pointed than that? That just seems peculiarly disingenuous.
But back to Jack’s original point, don’t you think the Right would be all over this if an ad of this ilk came from a Muslim or — heaven forbid — atheist organization?
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April 19th, 2012 at 8:46 am
Whoever created this ad clearly didn’t get the memo about how many American Catholics dissent from Church teaching on these matters. Plus, from a historical perspective, the idea of the Church as the defender of religious liberty is hilarious.
April 19th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
Clearly, the “Catholic League” is either mentally deficient or history illiterate, or both. Are they forgetting that Europeans went to America to ESCAPE the Catholic Lunatic Fringe and their draconian, mysoginist, racist, anti-semetic retardedness? And now they actually think they have an influence in what draconian, mysoginist laws the government should pass? Do they own a dictionary? Can they look up the word “Freedom”? Because if they had the intelligence of a 6yr old, they would know that FREEDOM OF CHOICE is freedom, FREEDOM TO DECIDE IF AND WHEN TO HAVE CHILDREN, is a freedom and trying to subject women to Catholic lunacy against birth control and abortion is ANTI-FREEDOM! How about the Catholic League STFU already, before we, the people of America, decide to treat them the way they’ve treated anyone and everyone who a) disagreed with their lunacy, and b) outted the Catholic lunacy for all to see.
April 19th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Ya had to figure, after years of Southern Baptist evangelical preachers getting rich and lobbying the GOP, some charlatans would pop up among the Catholics.
Most of the Catholics I know, keep to themselves. This type of rabid proselytizing is not in their comfort zone. Rick Santorum was freakish.
April 20th, 2012 at 4:21 am
What is wrong with this video? It is urging people to vote. It is not even telling them who to vote for. The ad is urging support for certain values just as the commenters above are urging support for certain values.
April 20th, 2012 at 9:07 am
I thnk Jack’s point is that if a Muslim group produced a video almost exactly like this one — just substituting Qu’ranic quotes for Biblical ones, etc. — the uproar from the Right (Pamela Geller, et al) would probably be deafening.
April 20th, 2012 at 9:10 am
It’s propaganda.
You can say it isn’t herding the flock to vote a certain way, but you can’t do it with a straight face. If you can, we are all cracking up.
April 20th, 2012 at 11:18 am
Actually, it’s quite clear that that ad is targeted to conservative Catholics. Per Chris Mooney, author of The Republican Brain:
The ad’s imagery/message clearly plays to conservatives’ fear response in way that a liberal (or nonpartisan) ad would not.
April 20th, 2012 at 11:34 am
Left in Lowell is guilty of your definition of propaganda. It has a certain world view and is advocating it. I am here to remind you when the emperor has no clothes. The video is only encouraging people vote. The left is always crying we need more people or is it that they only want certain people vote?
April 20th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Publius,
I don’t care if like minded people organize and vote. What I mind, and our Founders concur, is when they attempt to codify their dogma.
Rick Santorum can campaign however he likes. Rick Santorum’s approach to governing is an affront to our Constitution. I took a pledge to defend our Constitution from “all enemies.”
April 20th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Publius — The proprietors of Left in Lowell are up front about their leftward bias; those behind the “Test of Fire” ad are pushing a rightward agenda. So what?
I doubt the ad’s creators would claim they weren’t advocating a particular political perspective. Why the need to present the ad as “only encouraging people to vote” when the message is clearly more pointed than that? That just seems peculiarly disingenuous.
But back to Jack’s original point, don’t you think the Right would be all over this if an ad of this ilk came from a Muslim or — heaven forbid — atheist organization?
April 24th, 2012 at 10:59 am
The video is only encouraging people vote.
Really? It isn’t encouraging people to vote a certain way? Whether you favor or oppose a woman’s right to choose, this ad is encouraging you to vote?
I totally didn’t take it that way.