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February 25th, 2013 at 10:07 am
For that, he is contrite.
Please Jack, there was nothing in that statement that was contrite. You even point out his own words:
but for the presence of a live microphone it would never have been heard. I inadvertently let my frustration show and I apologize to the Council for that.
He’s not sorry he said it, he’s sorry he got caught! and probably sorry that I made an issue out of it.
Why would you expect anything more from the SUN than what you got?
Same thing with your “Axis of Chatty’ ..the Mayor took a shot at the councilors “looking forward to spending my Tuesday nights with people..etc” of course given the opportunity they are going to shoot back.
You also leave out Councilor Lorrey who also stated the Janitor told him the same thing. Why don’t you include him in the Axis of Chatty’ ?
February 25th, 2013 at 11:52 am
Gerry,
You crack me up. How many times have you tee’d off on C.Elliott’s shenanigans? Condemning the CM for thinking something, a thing that you at any giving moment agree with, is nuts.
C.Elliott is owed no apology. If Elliott wants to take a ‘Point of Personal Priviledge’ and offer an admission that his histrionics diminish the Council’s proceeding, then I could support a direct apology to Elliott by the CM.
The Manager owes an apology to us, all Lowellians, for sinking to Elliott’s level. Why? As you noted:
The Manager erred in getting caught. I refuse to chastise his motivation, the muse that moved his lips.
If C.Elliott is so inflamed, let him move to fire the CM. Or, better yet, you can bring a petition yourself, Gerry.
No Councilor will move on this City Manager until AFTER November.
February 25th, 2013 at 12:04 pm
The manager is very much not at fault for his internal reaction - anybody would be greatly frustrated in his situation. He’s at fault for the slip of decorum.
He understands this and his apology covers the exact bases of the ‘whats’ ‘whys’ and ‘to whoms’ for which he as at fault. He knows his frustration is justified and that the slip of decorum wasn’t, however understandable it was.
February 25th, 2013 at 2:00 pm
Who among us has not said something like that to the boss under our breaths? Not too many of us have been dumb enough to say it into a live microphone, though. If Lynch is guilty of anything here it’s stupidity. I didn’t feel insulted at all when I heard it, so no need to apologize to me. I do think it’s not a good practice to do it to one of your bosses, even if he’s outnumbered. Bernie: sometimes you just have to STFU.
February 25th, 2013 at 3:11 pm
WOW so Dramatic…If C.Elliott is so inflamed, let him move to fire the CM. Or, better yet, you can bring a petition yourself, Gerry
I can hear the dramatic music playing in the background…what a load of bullcrap!
He was wrong to say it because he’s supposed to be the Professional you and his other supporters shove that word down everyone’s throats at every opportunity. We have “Professional Management”!
Elliot is Elliot he does things to tick off the Manager and Bernie finally snapped, it doesn’t make it right and the half-assed apology was stupid.
No one is saying fire Bernie..just let him admit for once in his friggen 6 years that he screwed up and was wrong..it isn’t that hard.
He lost his cool it happens in Lowell’s history this is NOTHING..Manager’s and Councilors screamed at each other…but if you get caught just admit it without justifying why you did it.
It’s like one of your kids covering up a mistake they made, their buddy started it… they responded and they got caught.
Same thing stop trying to protect him…he screwed up and offered a half assed apology..correction statement that included the word apology at the end. Elliot already stated he was moving on..why can’t you?
February 25th, 2013 at 3:36 pm
Gee, Gerry, did you actually WATCH the video I did? Wherein I said, Lynch made a mistake? Have you actually read the blog posts?
But let’s put things in context, perspective, and use some common freaking sense. Beyond “he shouldn’t have said it aloud within earshot or near a mic” there is NO controversy here.
Move on. Jesus CHRIST people, we’re about to get hit with serious budget cuts if the sequester goes through. WE HAVE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO WORRY ABOUT.
February 25th, 2013 at 3:46 pm
Elliot is Elliot he does things to tick off the Manager
That is a prime example of what I call “The Liberty of Low Expectations.”
I expect more from Councilors and from the City Manager. The CM has apologized. We are waiting for C.Elliott’s. Of course, on Saturday, he effectively said that he means to continue with his unhinged MO. At least until he is voted off the Council. Odd. Elliott thumbed his nose at you, to your face, and you let him skate?
I cannot wrap around how passive you are to the notion that any Councilor can subvert the operation of our City, because a few thousand people gave them a vote. If an election can empower a Councilor to keep check on a City Manager, than the Internet empowers you and me to keep check on the electeds.
As for me moving on? I’m responding to Campi’s pilfering of stuff he reads on blogs and FB.
February 25th, 2013 at 4:21 pm
“Bernie finally snapped”
An off-handed mutterance to himself = snapped?
Who’s dramatizing this again?
February 25th, 2013 at 4:24 pm
“No one is saying fire Bernie..just let him admit for once in his friggen 6 years that he screwed up and was wrong..it isn’t that hard.”
If it really was ‘always done this way in the past’ then he didn’t screw up. Moreover, when Elliot says he wanted different and the CM said he’d have no problem accommodating it if the council wanted it that way he didn’t screw up. Elliot, after hearing agreement continued to berate and created a hostile environment - that’s the screw up (plus an offhanded not-intended for public consumption mutterance).
February 25th, 2013 at 5:38 pm
I wasn’t snapping it was cracking a joke at C. Elliot’s intelligence.
February 25th, 2013 at 5:55 pm
Your opinion on Lynch’s thought behind his words is for you to keep, but I feel you are way off base.
I have watched enough public meetings to discern that our electeds are not always, let’s say, completely prepared. Likely, the CM, having a front row seat, has an even greater insight on this?
That said, this whole debacle is about briefing the Council about the pending Loan Order. From what I can gather, the CM is prepared to deliver a full, detailed brief on it, in the context of the scheduled Public Hearing. Councilor Elliott and Councilor “Ditto” Kennedy are demanding a ‘comprehensive summary’ beforehand.
I have many issues with C.Elliott’s conduct. I feel strongly that they are well informed concerns, not lacking in third party validation. No one I know thinks C.Elliott is stupid. Most feel whatever intellect he possesses is misdirected. I actually suspect that C.Elliott is willfully undermining the efficient operations of our city, in order to degrade public confidence in this CM and Plan E Gov’t.
Elliott isn’t as politically wily as C.Kennedy. But, he has managed to get re-elected. He has yet to convince his peers to elect him, as Mayor. Dragging Lowell down to degrade Bernie Lynch doesn’t seem like a smart strategy to me.
February 25th, 2013 at 8:08 pm
“Dragging Lowell down to degrade Bernie Lynch doesn’t seem like a smart strategy to me.”
Alas, Jack, that seems to be how opposition politics works these days. Doesn’t the GOP operate under a similar standard vis-a-vis the President?
It all comes down to simple greed….
February 25th, 2013 at 8:37 pm
Let’s say you were a city councilor, and you had an idea for changing the schedule for how the council handles loan orders.
Is this what you would do?
February 26th, 2013 at 5:31 pm
I think joe, as usual, nails this one on the head. IF this were an honest line of inquiry, even an honest HOSTILE line of inquiry, this is definitely the wrong way to go about it.
As the Mr. says, Elliott can’t seem to take “yes” for an answer. Which underscores how little this is about asking real questions he has and more about being SEEN to ask and SEEN to attack the manager and wasting the time of the rest of us for our trouble.
February 26th, 2013 at 9:47 pm
Tonight was a perfect example of Lynne’s point. Elliott waits until the end and really has no new questions but whines on about how “he has questions”. Lynch offers to answer anything and stay as long as needed. But…..no questions raised. Elliott and Kennedy are so damn obvious in their agenda.